Windows Phone Retail Health Check Down Under.

One of the ongoing themes in Year 1 of Windows Phone in Australia has been the store retail experience for potential new Windows Phone customers Down Under.  Unfortunately, this experience has proved more often to be a negative one for this (still) fledgling mobile OS.  Social Media and enthusiast sites and forums have too often discussed the lack of retail sales staff knowledge of the Windows Phone OS, limited availability, pushes to Android or iOS and a host of other disappointing outcomes.  This, combined with the Microsoft decision in year 1 to soft launch (no major marketing or promotion, point-of-sale support etc etc) ensured that WP7 was relegated to at best a minor presence or even absent from many outlets.  With no Generation 2 device announcements yet for Australia (from leader to straggler) – WPDownUnder went out earlier this week to cold-call some local stores and check-in on the Windows Phone retail experience.

Microsoft, HTC, Samsung, LG, Telstra, Optus and Vodafone all remain silent on the reason for delays in Australia on announcements of new WP7 devices.  Meanwhile excitement over Nokia out of the Northern Hemisphere with the release of the Lumia devices will not translate to a local device release until Q1 2012.  Consequently the state of Windows Phone in Australia is sadly subdued.  Whilst the Mango Update places this great mobile OS as a real contender and alternative to Android and iOS – in a fast-paced retail environment with new devices from the market leader (Android) seemingly every week – retail store staff (and consumers) just cannot seem to reconcile a 13 month old handset with WP7 as being able to go head-to-head with the newest Apple and HTC/Samsung etc Android handsets. That’s before you even commence the argument of whether ” specs” alone define the User Experience of a smartphone.  Without the newer devices, both the consumer and more critically the handset distribution partners (ie Telcos) just don’t seem to have WP7 as “in their sights” at present.

This works directly against the ripples of interest that are already being felt here based on the excellent Marketing and Promotional launch in the EU by Nokia for the Lumia Windows Phone.

So – how does Windows phone fare in the retail shopping experience compared to its opposition?  The table below represents some 1st hand Market research undertaken earlier this week.  Travelling to one of the major outlying South Eastern suburbs at the edge of the Melbourne urban sprawl, WPDownUnder visited each of centrally located (>90% of outlets) retail phone stores to litmus test Sales feedback and the in-store customer experience for someone setting out to buy a GEN1 WP7 device in Australia right now.

Frankston: Regional Population ~130K+ ~40km from Melbourne CBD.

Thanks to Ryan and Travis over at WPDevPodcast – who planted the idea following their most recent podcast with a “cold-call” to a US based ATT store for a similar intent.  Make sure you check out their podcast recording of that experience!

Frankston, VIC WP7 Retail Store Cold Call

StoreCarrier/TelcoWindows Phone Units on DisplayOutright PricesFeedback - WP7Feedback - Nokia Lumia
Harvey Norman
Telstra/
Optus
Samsung Omnia 7/
LG Optimus 7
(both boxed)
N/A /
$499
No focus outright sale
Moved OK on contract
No Knowledge
Officeworks
TelstraNilN/AN/ANo Knowledge
One Planet
Communications
Vodafone/
Optus/
Virgin
NilN/ANo OEM or TELCO reps pushing the devices, no real levels of public interest/enquiry. All Android or iOS focus.Knowledge of Nokia Lumia devices and expect to stock/sell these in 2012.
Telechoice
Optus/
Virgin
NilN/AN/AKnowledge of Nokia Lumia devices and expect to stock/sell these in 2012.
Have not been happy with Meego/Nokia till now.
Crazy Johns
CrazyJohns
ie Vodafone.
NilN/ANo interest in WP7.
Android. Android.
Did I mention Android?
No Knowledge
Mall 3/Vodafone Kiosk
Vodafone/
3
HTC Trophy
(off/no demo)
$449OK sales to SEP (sale)
Feel Difficult to use
Some cust. returns.
No Knowledge
T-Life (Telstra)
TelstraHTC HD7**/
HTC Mozart*
* Mozart was unusable
** HD7 was pre-Nodo!
$600/
$360
OK sales Mozart $49 cap
Very Few HD7 sales
No Knowledge
Vodafone Store
Vodafone/
3
NilN/AN/ANo Knowledge
JB-HiFi
TelstraHTC HD7 only
(off/no demo)
Mozart deleted
item/out stock.
$768Hardly Moving units
No real buyer interest
No Reps pushing
Vague idea re: Nokia in 2012 with WP7. Thinks they will stock this. No news on other devices.
Dick Smith (DSE)
Telstra/
Optus/
Vodafone/
Virgin
NilN/AN/ANo Knowledge
Virgin Mobile
VirginNilN/AN/ANo Knowledge
AllPhones
Optus/
Vodafone/
Virgin
NilN/AN/AAlready had customers coming in asking for Nokia WP7 devices!
Optus Store
OptusSamsung Omnia 7/
LG Optimus 7
(both off/no demo)
$249/
$259
Have not moved many
Believe UI is difficult
Had some negative feedback
No Knowledge
A quick exercise in Windows Phone 7 handset shopping at a range of retail phone stores across an outer suburb of Melbourne.

  •  13 stores checked (probably 90+ % of main shopping centre/mall outlets).
  •  5/13 stores selling WP7 (just better than 1 in 3).
  •  Only 2 of those 5 report moderate to OK sales of WP7 devices.
  •  Of those 5 stores, 2 stores sold 2 models, 3 stores sold 1 model.
  •  In all 13 stores, between 25-50 handsets would have been on display in each store on all platforms.
  •  Only 1 store (Mall kiosk) had any form of Point of Sale information (other than handset tag info).
  •  Only 4 of 13 stores spoken to demonstrated any knowledge of Nokia and WP7.

Some interesting (disheartening) observations whilst in store:

Android clearly has the strongest presence, largest range, biggest price spread and best in-store promotion and point of sale information re: their OS and devices.

 

 

The (T-Life) Telstra store had a HTC HD7 on display that was the original NOV2010 release firmware.  No NoDo and let alone Mango! Ouch :(

Additionally the Mozart was in emergency call lockout, and could not be demoed.

 

Vodafone made it clear who they were behind – simply by looking at the desktop backgrounds on their in-store PC’s!

 

 

Mis-labelling and other errors were not uncommon. This HTC Salsa is quite the Trophy!  This handset and store however was the ONLY retail outlet that featured ANY WP7 point-of-sale material – a small HTC blurb/handout on the device.

 

Prices being all over the place was also evident – with some retailers having no idea that the Telco retail stores were massively undercutting their own outright handset prices!

 

 

And not from Frankston, but from my own snap in another SE suburb Optus store (last week) and from local Melbourne WP7 Developer and enthusiast Garry Holden – major factual errors also exist in-store (check the OS quoted in each pic here).  The first pic even made it to WPCentral via social media!

 

So what does this all say about Windows Phone in Australia?

If you’re a glass-half full type of person, then you will focus on the significant opportunity for improvement for Windows Phone in Australia, and probably hope Nokia’s arrival in Q1 2012 here significantly builds the brand and sales figures in conjunction with the work of the new Microsoft Australian Marketing appointee for Windows Phone.  Throw in Windows 8 and the forthcoming XBOX Design update for device convergence of experience in 2012 – stream with your Zune Music Pass Yazz singing the only way is up and look to next year!

However, on the flip side – with the glass way more than half empty – Windows Phone has the proverbial mountain to climb in Australia based on this single-suburb retail experience.  Combine this with apparent Telco disinterest in the platform (website presence, promotion, store stocking, social media commentary, lack of new handset announcements etc) and if Nokia is not the White Knight to save WIndows Phone – it could well languish as a niche enthusiast handset with the best User Interface and Experience people never tried….If this is the case, then Microsoft might need to have very deep pockets indeed – and prepare for a lengthy investment with slow gains not unlike the decade spent getting the XBOX to the prime console offering position in the market…..

Sheeds.

  • http://techin5.com Jubbin Grewal @Techin5.com

    Well it say’s that it’s a sad sad WP7 outlook. Reps not pushing it, so no one is aware of it. Microsoft doesn’t advertise it, so no one is aware of it. No one is aware of it, so no one is buying.

    I fail to see why Microsoft aren’t cracking the whip on this. There are over 35 million activated sim card in Australia.. it’s not a small market!

    • http://www.wpdownunder.com Sheeds

      And even more of a case of why they shd do what you say here: http://techin5.com/2011/11/why-microsoft-needs-to-open-a-microsoft-store-in-australia/ and open some Capital City Microsoft stores here!

      • http://techin5.com Jubbin Grewal @Techin5.com

        Exactly, my article basically sums up what should be done to fix everything wrong with Sales in Australia now. You link all the products together, and you get a better idea to give to people. All in a day’s work. NOW MAKE IT HAPPEN MICROSOFT!

    • http://twitter.com/houkoholic houkoholic

      It’s not up to Microsoft to do the advertising – just like Google doesn’t advertise Android. It’s the OEM’s job. Currently the top OEMs are making a killing with Android, so they are in no hurry to push their WP7 handsets. This is especially true for Samsung, their best WP7 – the Focus S, seems to be locked to AT&T in the states, so they default to selling their Galaxy S2s.

      Nokia should be in the position to change all of this, but since they are committed to the N9 here we probably won’t see the marketing blitz until the rumoured Lumia 900 comes out next year.

      • http://techin5.com Jubbin Grewal @Techin5.com

        Very incorrect, as Android is only part player in the market. Do you see how much Apple advertises their own products? MOST of the Apple product ads you see will be from Apple directly on your tv or magazien or newspaper. Then a lower level down, Carrier’s will push their product (or products depending on how many they sell).

        That’s why Apple has been successful in selling stuff, their marketing power. If they never marketed their products and only left to carriers, do you really think they would be doing *as well*? Probably not (not terrible, but no where near as successful).

      • Krinos

        Google/Android use a fairly different business model to MS/WP7 – since google sells the phone os for ‘free’ they have no vested interest in pushing the OS themselves hence zero marketing support. They make their money off mobile ad revenue and building off the ‘free’ price they push marketing 100% off to the OEMs and carriers/resellers, who are usually more willing to spend some dollars on low cost short release cycle handsets which require less carrier subsidies.

        MS on the other hand since they receive licensing fees per handset carrying WP7 do provide some marketing support as part of the package, on top of their own direct promotions and advertising they’ve also recently taken to doling out cash to the OEMs to run their marketing campaigns. We’ve only seen weaksauce efforts thus far in Australia (Old Spice guy, those abstract and useless tv spots at first release, time-sharing with MS general promotions like The Block). Hopefully the next AU push will be as good as the sterling efforts they’re making in the USA with the gen2 device push (giant windows phone) and in and around Europe where Nokia have paid for equal billing with the iPhone in store.

  • http://twitter.com/ThalgoAustralia Thalgo Australia

    ah man that is very disheartening but only proves what we all know or were thinking. I walk through the main malls of the Perth city centre and always do adhoc visit phone shops and test them on WP7 and 9 times out of 10 I get “yeah I don’t think we have those in stock at the moment” answers. Vodafone are the worst. Optus pretty bad but have helped in the past but now that they don’t offer any phones at all are just terrible. The only shops that don’t fail so bad are the telstra shops which most have a HD7 and Mozart displayed and usually working (one had Mango on it) and if I ask a rep about it they don’t know anything about the OS but at least point me to the phone. The worst cases are when I say windows phone and they say do you mean Android. OMG that is sooooo annoying!

    I get pretty bored on lunch breaks so sometimes when I do ask a rep about WP7 and they have no idea what it is or I ask if they’ve heard anything about Nokia and WP7 (and they point me to the N9) I pull out mine and show them what its all about. When I get to downloading any song I chose using my Zune Pass they’re like woah that’s awesome. COME ON MICROSOFT. SHOW OFF YOUR DAMN PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!! WE CAN’T DO ALL THE EVANGALISING OUR SELVES!!!!

    (i’m happy to say in the past 6 months I’ve converted 2 friends and wife to WP7. 1 from android. and the other 2 from iOS. Conversion is possible. amen.)

  • http://twitter.com/doktorgphd Doktor G

    ah man that is very disheartening but only proves what we all know or were thinking. I walk through the main malls of the Perth city centre and always do adhoc visit phone shops and test them on WP7 and 9 times out of 10 I get “yeah I don’t think we have those in stock at the moment” answers. Vodafone are the worst. Optus pretty bad but have helped in the past but now that they don’t offer any phones at all are just terrible. The only shops that don’t fail so bad are the telstra shops which most have a HD7 and Mozart displayed and usually working (one had Mango on it) and if I ask a rep about it they don’t know anything about the OS but at least point me to the phone. The worst cases are when I say windows phone and they say do you mean Android. OMG that is sooooo annoying!

    I get pretty bored on lunch breaks so sometimes when I do ask a rep about WP7 and they have no idea what it is or I ask if they’ve heard anything about Nokia and WP7 (and they point me to the N9) I pull out mine and show them what its all about. When I get to downloading any song I chose using my Zune Pass they’re like woah that’s awesome. COME ON MICROSOFT. SHOW OFF YOUR DAMN PRODUCT!!!!!!!!!! WE CAN’T DO ALL THE EVANGALISING OUR SELVES!!!!

    (i’m happy to say in the past 6 months I’ve converted 2 friends and wife to WP7. 1 from android. and the other 2 from iOS. Conversion is possible. amen.)

  • http://www.wpdownunder.com Sheeds

    Of course another point to raise – is that with no GEN2 devices in Aus yet, that means that in the few places WP7 can be demoed as per above, the OS people see is NoDo or even pre-NoDo.

    Absolutely no Mango in display that I have ever seen in any store around Melbourne.

  • Krinos

    Can’t honestly blame the stores though, they live off new phone releases and there’s been no new hardware released in Australia since the HD7. WP7 just doesn’t have the brand presence to push the single release point per year that Apple can with iPhones.

    The pop up store presences that MS are rolling out would help, if they actually bothered to put WP7s in them – went to the one at Westfields Sydney CBD the other day and it was all laptops and xbox, zero phones.

  • Mystery

    On an unrelated note, the Samsung Omnia 7 has been floating in the top 10 handsets in the Optus online store for a few months now, and it’s still there!

    • http://www.wpdownunder.com Sheeds

      I was made aware last week that a major AUS top100 ASX listed company just switched all their staff eligible for smartphones over from Telstra (mixture devices) to Optus – with the initial changeover order amounting to >200 Samsung Omnia’s! Maybe that will help clear stocks and get GEN2 here soner! :D

  • Robert Starr

    Wow, I tried to post this comment (below) on the telstra exchange, and they don’t seem to be going to release it, so posting it here… Maybe you can do a test on this and write an article? It’s despicable…

    =====

    Get this, I’d had enough of waiting for new mango hardware to arrive, so I though… i’ll just get the old HTC HD7 and upgrade it after a few months of waiting…

    So I went to the telstra website upgrade my plan from my current $99 unlimited BYO plan to a $129 unlimited plan with a “shiny new handset” as their website offered.

    I went to choose a HTC HD7… and it wasn’t there. In fact, there were NO windows phones there to upgrade to. Only android and apple. I can’t even CHOOSE to upgrade my plan to a windows phone on the telstra website. Serious. Give it a try.

    What’s going on? Is this a conspiracy? Is it “political”. Is Telstra’s new fanboy status with Google pushing aside the competition?

    Why can’t I even choose to get a windows phone on the website?! I don’t want android or ios, I’ve had them both, I want a windows phone. OMG. It’s like a bad dream dealing with Telstra. Can anybody answer why I can’t choose a windows phone when upgrading on the website?

    • Robert Starr

      If you’d like to test this go to https://onlineshop.telstra.com.au/ then choose XL with a new mobile phone on the right… now look at the phone choices. Serious. What’s that all about?!

      • Robert Starr

        Actually, try any of them (small, medium, large etc) and there’s no windows phones you can choose. This is disgusting.

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  • AS147

    Have a look at this then ($150million going down the drain). http://wmpoweruser.com/att-store-reps-still-turning-away-prospective-windows-phone-buyers/