Windows Phone 8 (new devices) & WP7.8 (current devices) confirmed!

Overnight at the Microsoft June 20th Windows Phone Developer Summit in the US, Microsoft’s Joe Befiore delivered the news every WP7 owner, enthusiast and tech commentator was waiting on. That’s right, they answered the question on whether existing phones would get the new WP8 update. But they did a whole lot more than that. Reducing the announcements to just this level does not do justice to an amazing initial introduction to the new OS coming later this year. And remember, despite everything WPDownUnder is about to report, this was only an introduction” to WP8 – MS has held back a lot more for the full launch expected in late Q3….

Read on to check out all the amazing news!!!

Meet the beautiful, new – and dare I say “re-imagined” Windows Phone 8 Start Screen (WOW :D ) -

More on this in a minute.

So – to cut to the chase…back in March of this year I made my only public prediction (not thinking speculation was particularly helpful) on what I expected would take place re: existing Windows Phone handsets and WP8:

Well – we can report that as expected, MS have indeed confirmed that WP8 will be coming to new handsets only, with specific Hardware to support the new code base and feature set. HOWEVER, before you fill the comments section below, they also confirmed a “compromise” update which ALL current windows phones will received, WP7.8! Like the prediction above, this update will bring the new UI look and feel to current devices, without the kernel changes (think OS ‘under the bonnet’) and hardware related feature-set:

“The new Start screen is so useful and emblematic of what Windows Phone is about that we want everybody to enjoy it. So we’ll be delivering it to existing phones as a software update sometime after Window Phone 8 is released. Let me repeat: If you currently own a Windows Phone 7.5 handset, Microsoft is planning to release an update with the new Windows Phone 8 Start screen. We’re calling it “Windows Phone 7.8.”

Some of you have been wondering, “Will we also get Windows Phone 8 as an update?” The answer, unfortunately, is no.

Windows Phone 8 is a generation shift in technology, which means that it will not run on existing hardware. BUT we care deeply about our existing customers and want to keep their phones fresh, so we’re providing the new Start screen in this new update.” Joe Belfiore, MS.

So what is coming to Windows Phone 8? Well the WPBlog post by MS succinctly captures the coming changes announced so far – and remember, this is just an initial reveal by MS, as they confirmed they are holding back a lot more of the specific changes, tweaks and enhancements until the official launch!

Click to visit the MS page with larger versions

Windows Phone 8:

These are some amazing, huge changes! For Gaming, for Apps, for Daily use and connectivity, for scalability (premium to entry-level smart phones) and for the future, and all based on a kernel or platform shared with the forthcoming Windows 8 release – opening up even more possibilities! For Developers, MS confirmed some of these key new benefits:

Finally Windows Phone can catch-up, and hopefully exceed the competition for gaming experiences! However MS still had more up its sleave. Acknowledging some of the business/enterprise concerns over the platform from an IT administrator and deployers perspective, they announced:

And they still weren’t done!

  • Windows Phone 8 will have Skype and VoiP integrated into the OS, in a similar vein to the current social media integration of Facebook and Twitter etc, offering a richer experience and true multi-tasking!
  • Audible App is arriving on Windows Phone – for both WP8 – but more importantly, for all current WP7 handsets from later today, bringing rich audiobook interaction and with WP8, built-in Voice control in-app, not just via the OS!
  • Improved language support – totalling >50 for WP8 launch.
  • WP8 initial hardware launch partners: Nokia, Huawei, Samsung, and HTC, all built on next-generation chips from Qualcomm.
  • Improved Camera API Access – offering “Lens Apps” to developers for more camera control and effects.
  • Announcing that the Windows Phone Marketplace officially hit 100,000 apps and games—a milestone reached faster than Android, and a testament to the thousands of talented developers around the world since launch. Together they deliver more than 200 new titles, on average, each day.
  • Official apps from Chase and PayPal are in the works. Gameloft has Windows Phone versions of Asphalt 7: Heat and N.O.V.A. 3 Near Orbit Vanguard Alliance on the way.
  • Nokia is helping deliver the much-requested Zynga games Words with Friends and Draw Something to Windows Phone later this year.
  • Fun new “100,000 Apps and Counting” mugs and other goodies in the official Windows Phone Gear Store!
  • Improvements to Local Scout – including Wi-Fi hotspot locations and personal recommendations
  • DATASMART – offering capabilities to monitor your Data/Cellular plan usage (Yes!) – with Nokia also announcing an App for this under their services.

And last – but by no means least – something YOU ALL WANTED TO HEAR!!!! Changes to the Updates process for Windows Phone:

Going even further than this – Paul Thurrott over at Winsupersite states:

“Windows Update. Windows Phone 7.8 will be delivered directly to all Windows Phone users, bypassing the carriers. You will be able to download and install Windows Phone 7.8 over Wi-Fi, at home or wherever else, and install this update. This type of updating will be made available in Windows Phone 8, as well, as given my long, loud, and lengthy complaining about the lack of such updating in Windows Phone 7.x, you won’t be surprised, maybe, to discover that Microsoft jokingly calls this “the Paul Thurrott feature” internally.

Nice.” LOL

And this is just the “tip of the iceberg”. WPDownUnder will keep you appraised of all the WP8 and WP7.8 news as it comes to hand! 2012 looks to be an exciting year for Windows Phone Down Under!

Sheeds.

FULL KEYNOTE:

 

  • [email protected]

    Off topic a little, but. As they have now announed 100,000 apps, its a pretty significant milestone. i.e. their App Store is large enough for people to start to take more notice (even if market share is still not that great, its growing).
    Sheeds, can you do a post on the status of Big AUssie COmpanies who do not have a proper WP App equal to their iOS or Android version.
    Off the top of my head, missing is.
    ANZ and NAB (based on your earlier post).
    Both of the big Grocery stores – Woolworths and Coles. (this one is just shameful, and one of the biggest annoyances of the platform for me)
    It seems most Govmt stuff is only iOS these days, which you would have thought would be against their discrimination rules.
    I dont care if we have ANgry Birds, or a Drawing/WOrding App. Give me something useful also.

  • Angelo Lancuba

    I’m very excited. This is huge !!

  • http://www.facebook.com/robyn.gibbons.90 Robyn Gibbons

    Impressive list of new features – would be even more impressed if MS fixed up Windows Live calendar reminder issue (recurring events). This has been a topic on MS WP7 forums since Nov 2011, and remains unresolved, with no feedback as to when it might be fixed. Surely a very basic (but important) functionality issue should be working properly before they add more fancy bits….

  • Jess

    When is it coming to Australia?

  • Daniel Michael

    ZOMG LOOK at those Live Tiles – KAPOW!

  • AS147

    Hi Sheeds, sorry for the slight thread hijack but I thought this was closely related enough….
    Someone (you folk included) needs to keep track of WP numbers. I have been watching them weekly for about a year now and I am seeing an uptick I haven’t seen before.
    For those who have been following numbers apart from Finland (home of Nokia) market share (according to statcounter) has been poor (1-2% at the most). In Finland they finally hit 8% a month ago.
    Take a look at Finland now from 8% to 9.74% in significantly less time than the previous increases
    http://gs.statcounter.com/?PHPSESSID=232fb1a8ddcd0dda1f4ec0aec27bf7a0#mobile_os-FI-weekly-201210-201225
    The more surprising things is what is happening in one of (if not the) largest market in the world; China
    I know we had an MS rep mention it had grabbed 7% of the market (unbelieveable to most due to the extremely short period of exposure but also uncorroborated) but the uptick here is significant also coming from almost 0% to 1.15% in 1 week. No other market for WP7 has done that. It is also all the more impressive when you consider the size of the Chinese market.
    http://gs.statcounter.com/?PHPSESSID=232fb1a8ddcd0dda1f4ec0aec27bf7a0#mobile_os-CN-weekly-201210-201225
    Every other market is crawling up slowly but if China in a few months time hits 5% then the press lines will be buzzing. That along with the IDC statement that WP8 will overtake iOS based iPhones by 2016 all seems encouraging news.

  • http://twitter.com/rivenscythe Riven

    Hi Sheeds, are you planning on updating the article with what Thurrott said this morning about the new start screen being the only change in WP7.8, or are you waiting to hear for official confirmation from Microsoft?

  • Adam Smith

    After getting over the disaapointment of learning that WP8 won’t be on my 2 week old Lumia 900 (yes I took a bit of a gamble, but it really is a beautiful phone), just hope that they still add a few features from WP8. Some sort of working Skype solution and IE10 would be great.

    As far as some of the other things I don’t think it will be too bad also long as you have a Nokia. Atleast their doing something with their phones with extra apps and solutions to pick up the slack.

    I also read this morning that WP7 won’t go away completely in some markets, but I pity users on phones from the other companies. Very little so far, probably nothing in the future. I had a HTC Mozart basically from the first day it was available and HTC has given me nothing in that time, unlike Nokia which has given me more in additional features and apps in 2 weeks, than HTC ever did in that time.

    When you really break it down though it’s going to be atleast another 6 months until we have something WP8 here, then another 12-18 months till we start getting the bulk of apps only available just on WP8. Developers just won’t be able to jump ship to WP8 that quickly. Things like NFC payments, the wallet stuff etc I can’t really see being ‘everywhere’ for a bit longer either.

    As long as Microsoft and makers like Nokia still make some additions and fixes available for the time being, most people with have an opportunity (due to carrier contracts etc) to get a newer phone when the infrastructure is available to actaully take advantage of a lot of the newer features.

    For the hardcore WP user, you’ll probably get something outright when it’s available anyway so it won’t really matter. In the mean time I’m going to totally enjoy my Lumia 900 and I’m looking forward to the 7.8 update.

    • AS147

      Couldn’t agree more Adam. Even purchasing a Lumia now knowing all this I would still do it.

      The phone is fantastic.

      I don’t think I have had better signal strength, build quality and buttery smoothness from a smart phone. EVER.
      All the kinks and bugs have been worked out and the price will probably be dropping even further from the unbelieveably good price they were when launched.

      All of this ahead of any new OS, phone and related bugs and the countless choices (waiting for the next best thing) whilst Nokia are producing update after update now.

      I have received so much satisfaction from this phone there is a possibility that even if WP8 was out now and there wasn’t as well a built Nokia as this I’d probably wait a year.

      I’d wait for all the new OS and phone bugs work themsleves out and pick up a real gem of a bargain a year into it (mid/late 2013).

      Just because its got a dual core CPU it doesn’t mean it will run faster (Lumia is lightning fast) it just means that those hard core geeks (gamers etc) will get more apps. I am a great believer in not over complicating things and chasing senseless numbers. Beauty, simplicity, reliability, speed and apps what more do I need?.
      With more power you need bigger batteries etc etc etc.

      So in summary weigh up all the benefits of the current range, list the extras you get with the new stuff – don’t forget to add availability as a factor (when it finally makes it to your market) and tell me for most that anyone cares.
      I suppose I have been spoilt by an excellent phone that at the end of the day something special will need to come along to beat it.

      This might end up being the mobile phone equivalent of XP!